Two kinds of Catholics?
Incredibly Selfish? That is a new one. If God forbids abortion and gay marriage, then God is selfish. And so what if He is? Is following His Will not a worthy undertaking no matter how difficult? Is it not possible that He knows betterand that by our acceptance and allowing of abortion and gay marriage we will face consequences which will lead us to unhappiness and pain? If you feel this way then why is it okay for abortion on demand and gay marriage to be forced down my throat? And yes, if it is, it will have an affect on me and my family and society as a whole.
It is easy to recognize the origins of the current divisiveness of the Catholic Church today. On one side are the people whose primary concern is what you are NOT allowed to do, or what constitutes a sin, in Catholicism. Things such as abortion, gay marriage, and the like are forbidden for these people and, by extension, should be forbidden for society at large as well. This viewpoint is INCREDIBLY SELFISH and it is impossible to understand how someone that falls on this side of the line could call him/herself "compassionate".
On the other hand, there are the Catholics whose primary concern is what IS possible in Catholicism. Things such as working to provide opportunities to those who do not have them (both inside the US and outside), supporting people who have to make traumatic life decisions through prayer and discovery of conscience rather than mandating a path...these are examples of the concerns driving this second type of Catholic. These are people who have moved on from judgments they have no basis making, people that truly are "compassionate".
Catholicism is changing. It is moving away from a world in which beliefs are handed down to a model in which we, the people of thechurch, have the power and the responsibility to make our own decisions on what is right and wrong based on our morals and our relationship with God. Our role as Catholics is to help others build a relationship too, through our kind acts, our support, and ourc ompassion, not to force our individual values down other people'sthroats. That is not the way to a better world.
Clearly this will fall on deaf ears. Conservatives tend to have their minds already made up, which is part of the problem. But not everything is black and white...right and wrong is not always so easily able to discern. I urge you to step back and take another look at yourselves, your religion, and your president.
I agree there are divisions inCatholicism, but I do not think the groups you describe fairly represent these divisions. If you really are suggesting that those of us here in this forum do not work to provide opportunities to those who do not have them or fail to support those working through traumatic life decisions, then you are very much mistaken. As well, to imply we do not pray and discern is to not know us. Spend some time with us and find out for yourself. Or is your mind "already made up"? We do not judge, God does. But our Lord does tell us in Matthew(18:15-18) we should correct those who are sinning. And we do that in pointing out the actions of Senator Kerry and Kerry Catholics. If they fail to listen and be won over, then God will judge them, but we have a duty to try and correct.
Catholicism is not changing. There is a direct attempt by Kerry Catholics to change it to better fit what they want it to be instead of what God created for us. Yes, we make our own decisions about right and wrong and I am thankful I have the teachings of the Church to help me make those decisions. We help others through "kind acts" such as time volunteering, raising our children, taking care of our parents when they are older; we "support" the innocent still in the womb and those who are unwanted, (like Terry Schiavo), we show our compassion through our treatment of all men and women with dignity and respect, and we witness our values and yes, talk about them, even when they are not popular and accepted by others. Our Lord reminds us in scripture,"Blessed are you when they insult you and persecute you and utter every kind of evil against you (falsely) because of me." (Matthew 5:11) So we soldier on because He tells us we can make the world better.
Your words here willnot fall on deaf ears and they are likely to generate much response. We here at Catholics for Bush are respectful of others. We read and respond. We write about ourselves, our Faith and President Bush. Some of us even seen things differently since we started the forum. We see a vibrant Catholic faith and believe President Bush best represents our beliefs. Look at his recent addresses to the National Urban League and the Knights of Columbus and you will see a man who supports and believes what we and many other Catholics believe and hope for. I challenge you to look at Senator Kerry and his support for abortion on demand, embryonic stem cell research, same-sex marriage and more, and not see someone who fails to bridge his Catholic faith and his political positions. No one has convinced us, and they have tried, that it is the other way around with Senator Kerry.