Monday, August 09, 2004

Catholics Need Democracy Now!

This guy is confused.

As of the date of that K of C convention, Bush's immoral and illegal pre-empted war against Iraq, which was based on massive lies and deliberate deceptions, has cost the lives of 13,398 Iraqi civilians, 925 brave American soldiers, wounding 5,976 more, and extracting $126.3 billion out of our national treasury (antiwar.com). Whether any of these facts crossed the clerics' minds as they cheered for Bush is the problem. The RC Church is on record as opposing the Iraq War. However, the conduct of its leaders at this convention speaks louder than any of their dubious antiwar resolutions.


What about the 40 million abortions since 1973? A million a year and 4,000 a day? No mention of that by Mr Hughes.

3 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

What about the 36 million abortions performed worldwide? Do you not care about them? Should we not criticize any president that supports trading with countries that kill their unborn babies? That would be a crapload more than the 40 million babies you want to save. I want to save billions!

8:13 AM  
Blogger WilliamSB said...

Ignorance abounds all around.

Anonymous said:

"What about the 36 million abortions performed worldwide? Do you not care about them? Should we not criticize any president that supports trading with countries that kill their unborn babies? That would be a crapload more than the 40 million babies you want to save. I want to save billions!"This statement contributes nothing to, nor even addresses, anything William Hughes had to say. Nor was it intended to. It's become the in thing to shut down conversations by saying 'abortion'.

Person A: "We're in an immoral war."
Person B: Abortion."
Person A: "Thousands of people die every year from polution resulting from environmental deregulation."
Person B: "Abortion."
Person A: "Children are starving in the streets."
Person B: "Abortion."
Person A: "Democracy is falling abart."
Person B: "Abortion."

The list seems to go on forever. Listen, abortion is, per se, an important discussion. But not when you cheapen it by turning it into a marketing device to sell your product -- i.e. your candidate -- at the expense of intelligent conversation.

Moreover, in this particular case, Mr. Anonomous anonymously issued an ad hominem attack on Mr. Hughes. Unless Mr. Anonymous knows something about Mr Hughes that I don't -- and that's entirely possible -- Mr. Anonymous has no reason to make statements like, " That would be a crapload more than the 40 million babies you want to save."

It's particularly interesting to me that Person B is always "Anonymous" regardless of what blog he/she posts in. Not only does Mr./Ms. Anonymous not seem to be particularly interested in engaging in real dialogue with anyone, he/she does not even have enough respect for his/her audience to indentify him-/herself.

Having said that, William Hughes does not seem to have an appreciation for the tradition of our Church. It does not follow from living in a democratic society that our Church has to be a similar democracy. In fact, an argument like that runs square in the face of Apostolic writings in the New Testament. For that matter, we do not choose our shepherds; nor do they choose themselves. Christ chooses our shepherds. And those shepherds will have to answer to Christ for how well they carried out their responsibility for tending Christ's sheep.

That does not mean, however, that there is no room for vox populi in the Church. There are ample examples in our history where vox populi took the lead in correcting grave scandel in our Church. Vox populi is led by the Spirit, however, and not by a ballot box.

William Hughes should do himself a favor and study our history/tradition before commenting on the types of reforms that should take place.

11:48 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

William,

You are correct sir- Mr. Hughes is too judgmental. I take your word for it because you are a man. Now if a woman were to have responded to this thread, I would have told her to wait and listen...

6:05 AM  

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